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[lojban] Re: The Usability Project





On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:35:34 PM UTC+6, la arxokuna wrote:


Yes,  that's why we imported the content of all old pages into our new wiki. http://mw.lojban.org It uses the same engine as Wikipedia.
So everything that is possible for Wikipedia is possible for Jupiter si Lojbanic Mediawiki (LMW, mw.lojban.org).


Well done! But wiki is good for reference materials. A newbie will be overwhelmed if he or she tries to use wiki for learning.

It parses well http://camxes.lojban.org/?text=ti%20nanca%20li%20xa

Parses - yep, translates - nope. Though camxes is a great step in the right direction, cause it uses visualization.
 
So... I assume you can help, right?

Surely. BTW, I'm a programmer. But obviously I cannot do all this work by myself. It is not an issue of some minor fixes or improvements such as fixing the jbovlaste web-pages - it is an issue of a global change of the way the information is presented and processed.

The way information about lojban is presented on its official resources may be appropriate for a small group of men working together, but it is not if we take into account newbies spread all over the world and even active "lojban developers". The current lojban project interface (i.e. its site, textbooks, media, reference etc.) looks like "Hey, guy, there's some awesome stuff inside, but you must read this big grammar with plain black text on the background, crunch a heap of mailing lists, and then you'll certainly appreciate its awesomeness". Lojban is really awesome, and it must look beautiful and attractive for everyone.

We can add interactive elements, browser applications, games, consistent learning programs for different kinds of users, we can form translator teams, add special features for "lojban developers" and even for BFPK if it will countinue its work... Also we have to remove outdated resources from main site and store them as history in the wiki, for example. I have a lot of ideas, and later I will make a detailed roadmap about this update. I hope most of lojbanists will support it, but still it is a team work, and any help will be appreciated, especially from those who have been with lojban for a long time.

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