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Re: [lojban] Taxonomy and lojban




On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

    (Well, "djarpitsa" isn't actually a slinku'i, but...)  

It is, because "jarpitsa" has lujvo form.
 
Right, I know.  Hence the word "reliable" in the CLL.  The assertion that I was making was that it (the algorithm) was not the ONLY way of making Stage-3 fu'ivla,  that things like djarspageti are stage 3, Pierre's assertion to the contrary.

CLL says of stage 3 fu'ivla: "Stage 3 fu'ivla can be made easily on the fly, as lujvo can, because the procedure for forming them always guarantees a word that cannot violate any of the rules."

The procedure that CLL gives that always guarantees a word that cannot violate any of the rules requires the rafsi prefix to end in a consonant. If you allow CVV- and CCV- as prefixes, then stage 3 fu'ivla can no longer be made easily on the fly.

In any case, it doesn't really matter what one calls valid fu'ivla that start with CVVrC- or CCVrC-. Whatever one calls them, they cannot be made as easily on the fly as those that start with CCVCrC-, CVCCrC- or CVCrC, 

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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