Re: [lojban] Lexicon Valley: Will Learning a "Logical" Language Make You Think More Logically?

["John E. Clifford" <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

Hintikka tells about the effort involved in getting the minimal passing grade in Swedish in Schools in Finland.

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On Dec 11, 2013, at 22:56, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 14:43:41 John E. Clifford wrote:
>> Well, it has the history somewhat skewed and almost all the usual errors
>> about the Whorf Hypothesis, but a decent sketch of what most people and
>> Wikipedia think this is all about.  And no, logical languages don't make ou
>> more logical nor does the hypothesis nor JCB in his saner moments claim
>> they would.
> 
> I've read of an actual test of the hypothesis - not a set-up experiment, but 
> an observation of two existing groups of people. There is a noticeable 
> difference in the kinds of industrial accidents that Swedish-speaking Finns and 
> Finnish-speaking Finns get into; it was traced to the different ways the two 
> languages encode spatiotemporal ideas. Finns who learned one language at home 
> are required to learn the other in school (except in Åland), so it's not just 
> knowing the language that makes the difference, but learning it first.
> 
> Lojban has at least ten ways of saying "and", several ways of saying "if", a 
> large set of specific prepositions, both spatial and temporal tenses, and full 
> clusivity. On the other hand, it lacks grammatical number and gender. What 
> effect would learning Lojban as one's first language have on the mind?
> 
> Pierre
> -- 
> li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa
> 
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