On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
But that argument is implicitly limiting a se vrusi to one of the five primary tastes.why five? there can be more primary tastes.Not only can it be things like lo slari or lo kurki, it can be lo tsapi or lo cpina or even lo jipci, lo rectu, lo ladru or even . And we would (could) call the latter four in English "chickeny, meaty, dairy, metallic". To say that something is salty is to assert that it tastes like salt (NaCl and friends). It is not necessary to create a special word for it.--gejyspa--On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
Once there was a question what organisms belong to {curnu}.--The answer is that even snaked might be called "worms". If you don't like it invent a new classification.A more convincing example are words for taste:We can classify substances into: acids, alkali, sugars, salts etc.And we can classify them into: sweet, sour, umami, salty ...They are completely different and almost never intersect.Almost.Because "salty" coincides with "alkali" as alkali can be made the prototype of salty taste. Thus we need the same word for both classifications.---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] "salty"
To: lojban@googlegroups.comI also completely dislike the idea of adding experimental gismu, at least until baseline is finally lifted (and even then, in most cases), except in cases where absolutely necessary (and sarni and salni ain't them). In any case, your (lorxus'?) original argument is at best specious, because just like in languages such as English, the default for tersilna is zo'e, which means, in normal conversation, when you say "ko dunda lo silna mi" or "lo rectu cu se vrusi lo ka silna", your listener is going to assume "...be fi lo sodna be lo ratni be li papa kuku joi lo kliru be lo ratni be li paze", unless you specify otherwise, or you are working in lab with e.g. radium salts, or your listener is insane.There is really no need for people to always try to complicate matters by multiplying gismu (or using overly precise lujvo or fu'ivla) when not necessary,--gejyspa--
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