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Re: [lojban] Individuals and xorlo




On 4 February 2014 20:50, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:



On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:25 PM, Felipe Gonçalves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me just note that making xanto singular wouldn't help me either: Which elephant in the world could possibly be a unit for counting elephants?

If you don't think that the elephant is a good unit for counting elephants, you could say "lo gradu be fi lo ka xanto", or, as you said, redefine "kancu" so that it takes a tergradu instead of a gradu in x4.


I am sorry, maybe you can expand on your understanding of {gradu}?

The best I could come up with for using {gradu} is, e.g.,
  {ko'a gradu lo si'o mitre} <=> {ko'a mitre li pa}
  {gradu ko'e ko'i} <=> {ko'e ckilu ko'i}
with, e.g,
  {lo si'o mitre cu ckilu lo ka ma kau ni ce'u clani}
 
Do you have the same qualms with "lo mitre" or "lo snidu" to refer to units? What would you fill the x1 of gradu with?


As exposed, I would indeed fill the x1 of {gradu} with {lo mitre} and {lo snidu}, but to me these are references to things that are one meter and one second long, respectively. They are concrete stuff. A standard of measurement would be a se gradu or a ckilu.
 
mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

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