Place structures, linkargs and a bit of FA
Dear selmriste,
It seems like it is not fully agreed upon how to figure out
where sumti goes in all cases. Consider link-args. What is
the place structure of the selbri {dunda be lo plise}?
Some (including me, before I started digging into this),
seem to think that it is:
"x1 gives an apple to x2"
(example reference:
http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=Advanced_Place_Structure_Mangling)
The CLL says: "These sumti are not part of the overall bridi place structure,
but fill the places of the brivla they are attached to, starting with x2."
(
http://dag.github.io/cll/5/7/), which could be interpreted as:
"x1 gives an apple to x3"
Good old jbofi'e takes a middle ground. Consider the sentences
1) {mi do dunda be lo plise}, and
2) {mi fe do dunda be lo plise}.
In 1), it assigns {do} in dunda2, and {lo plise} in dunda3,
and in 2) it is the other way around.
(
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban-beginners/ho-XR6Vx2rg)
An older thread from 2002 is equally confused, where the example
sentence is {mi klama be fi le zdani le zarci}
(
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/lojban/conversations/topics/18022)
Here xod (I think) claims that {le zarci} is in klama4: the {fi} inside
the linkargs affects the place structure of the outer bridi!
The BPFK section does not touch this issue.
(
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section:+Linkargs)
What does {be} do to a selbri?
ki'e mi'e .dan. mu'o