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Re: [lojban] Learning basic Lojban vocabulary: one year after



I don't know how to break it to you, but valsi pumping is a remarkably labor intensive process that has virtually no direct relation to language proficiency.  Some master memorizers can barely stumble through a simple sentence; some people who can read Lojban at something like first (or at least very familiar second) language level cannot pass any of the flash card test at all.  I don't know what your correlation is, but I hope it is high enough that you can justify the time you have spent.  Theory, at least, suggest that that time would have been better spent (assuming that easy real-time functioning in Lojban is your goal) in reading Lojban text -- with a dictionary at hand (well, on the screen) at first but less and less so as you went along (but always there, since you will run into the rare word or place occasionally, just like L1). Keep up the good work, however you pursue it. 


On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:28 AM, 'Wuzzy' via lojban <lojban@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Hi!
It was roughly 1 year ago when I have discovered Lojban and started to
learn it.

Some people may remember that I have started a poll a while ago about
learning the words of Lojban.

Since then, my percentage improved.

So here are some statistics for you to munch:

= cmavo**** =
BAI and BAI*: 370/382 cards (97%)
COI and COI*: 54/54 (100%)
KOhA: 45/45 (100%)
PA: 89/91 (97%)
UI1 and UI*1: 181/190 (95%)
UI and UI* without UI1 and UI*1: 213/218 (97%)
tense cmavo: 174/178 (98%)
mekso cmavo*****: 58/66 (88%)
other cmavo**: 198/203 (98%)
all cmavo: 1382/1427 (97%)

= brivla =
gismu***: 1286/1341 (92%)

= rafsi =
short rafsi****: 2775/2982 (93%)

I use Anki. Anki reports that I have learned in 223 out of 407 days.



I am quite sad that, after a year of learning, I still have not reached
the 100% mark. I am quite pissed off by the fact that there is a small
percentage left for me, yet I can’t seem to climb it for a while now.

I therefore concluded that from now on, I try to learn harder.
I noticed that with Anki I learned less and less cards each day until
Anki said that I have “finished”. I try a different approach now: The
next 7 days, I try to learn at least 2 hours a day, regardless of how
many cards I munch in this time. After the 7 days have passed, I’ll
report back here with new statistics for you to munch.

Have others here also trouble learning the last bits of the basic
vocabulary? Are you stuck around 95% for a longer time, too? Have you
already surpassed it?

FOOTNOTES:
** = may overlap with the other categories
*** = includes learning the place structure
**** = back and forth
***** = VEI, VEhO, VUhU, PEhO, KUhE, FUhA, JOhI, LI, MAhO

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