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Re: [lojban] Re: Letter Frequency in lojban




2014-08-26 0:13 GMT+04:00 TR NS <transfire@gmail.com>:


On Monday, August 25, 2014 11:23:38 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote:
 
This list doesnt contain Mandarin pinyin which is important.


You are right. I didn't factor Mandarin into this as a percentage of it's world population. And that appears to be the exception that accounts for Lojban's odd frequency counts and heavy use of `c`. Personally, I don't think it serves Lojban well. I'm curious how many Chinese speakers are learning Lojban and what their impressions of the phonology are.

100% of  Lojbanists speak or understand English.
Well, this of course doesn't mean that we should rely on English phonology.

Here is a table where I propose mapping Mandarin phonology onto the Lojbani one. Mostly it agrees with how Chinese words were Lojbanized in gismu creation process.

However, note that Mandarin is not the only dialect (although forces onto the Chinese people) so its weight in gismu creation process might be lower than chosen. gismu took phonemes from Mandarin but took weight from Chinese-megadialect.

What can you do with Lojban?
1. Select gismu that you don't like (e.g. those that have {c} phoneme) and think of concepts that not necessarily coincide in their meaning with already existing gismu
2. Create new brivla for these not exactly synonymous concepts and add them to jbovlaste.lojban.org
3. Use them, write texts with them

Thus they can get more popularity.

See also http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=borrowing_from_Loglan for more "ugly" phonemes.


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