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Re: [lojban] the future of Lojban's leadership



On 9/6/2014 3:00 PM, Dustin Lacewell wrote:
I lost faith in the endeavor. Here we are four months later still
talking about schism and the CLL and lojbab still grand-standing his
ultimate wisdom

I certainly claim no ultimate wisdom. I have some influence as one of the Founders, and can speak for the organization as president at this point. But Robin and others set a precedent more than 10 years ago by replacing me as president (I only have it now because no one wanted the job as it is defined in the Bylaws; the President's responsibilities are primarily organizational and legal).

even though nothing has been done in the intern on his
or anyone else's part.

Anything that would be done officially, would involve the voting members at an annual meeting, which has not been held in the last 4 months (but will be held soon).


Tragically, most everyone who supported the
original proposal here, to move the maintenance of the language to a
more software-development format have all crumbled under the rhetoric of
councils, bylaws, hearings and whatever needless muck that serves only
to strain people's already volunteer interest and contribution.

That "needless muck" is what gave the byfy authority. Before that, it was the LLG voting membership that held the authority, which they largely delegated to the LLG Board, since the members only met one day a year.

If people cannot sustain their interest for a mere 4 months of not getting immediate gratification, I doubt that I would trust them for the long haul of making Lojban successful. I've been doing this for 30 years now; 4 months is a trivial amount of time when we spent over 3 years producing the first edition of CLL.

That said, all those guys appear to be suuuuuuuper excited to join the
LLG when the next meeting takes place (whenever that is) and try to work
within the constraints laid out subsequently in this thread by existing
'leaders'. Good luck to them.

A few have expressed interest (around half a dozen, hardly a mass movement). Perhaps more will speak up after the meeting call. They will likely be welcomed.

I'm not speaking for them, just relaying my impressions of their
adjusted dispositions and what they've said.

Of course, they could always speak for themselves. The fact that YOU feel a need to speak for anyone but yourself (or relay any opinions beside your own) is suspicious.

lojbab

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