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Re: [lojban] The White Knight (Through the Looking Glass)



Nice work. I have a couple of comments:

The ungrammatical incomplete sentence in lu-li'u quotes makes me much more uncomfortable than if it was an incomplete sentence standing on its own. It's understandable when a sentence is ungrammatical because the speaker didn't finish it, because they were interrupted, got sidetracked or whatever, but it's different when the missing words are not at the end of the sentence, i.e. in this case when "li'u" appears in an ungrammatical position. I don't know what the general answer should be for how to quote interrupted sentences (you obviously felt as I do that lo'u-le'u as a cop-out is unsatisfying), but in this case you could just avoid the issue by using "i jo nai" instead of "go nai ... gi ...".. 

The second comment is about "ba'e" in:

-.i ri cmene lo selsa'a ku xu
- na go'i .i do na jimpe .i ra ba'e cmene lo cmene

Assuming the emphasis marks the rheme/comment as opposed to the theme/topic, I would expect the "ba'e" on the second cmene. The first cmene just repeats Alice's sentence, so it's not what the White Knight is correcting. I understand the sentence structure is somewhat different in Lojban than in the original, but the "ba'e" there just sounds off to me.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:48 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
coi jbopre

I was just looking through my files and found an old translated passage from Through the Looking Glass. It's the part where the White Knight talks to Alice about his song. I thought I'd share it:


ni'o «lu lo selsa'a cu clani —sei la xirsoi cu cusku— gi'e ku'i ba'e mutce lo ka melbi .i ro da poi tirna lo nu mi sanga sy zo'u go nai da ba'e klaku gi … li'u»

ni'o «lu go nai klaku gi mo —sei la .alis. mu'i lo nu la xirsoi pu suksa lo ka de'a tavla cu cusku— li'u»

ni'o «lu go nai klaku gi na klaku li'a .i lo cmene be lo selsa'a cu selcme «lu lo kanla be lo xekli'ifi'e li'u» li'u»

ni'o «lu ua .i ri cmene lo selsa'a ku xu —sei la .alis. cu cusku be fau lo nu .abu troci lo ka se cinri— li'u»

ni'o «lu na go'i .i do na jimpe —sei la xirsoi fau lo nu simlu lo ka se fanza milxe cu cusku .i ra ba'e cmene lo cmene .i lo cmene cu ba'e du «lu lo laldo laldo nanmu li'u» li'u»

ni'o «lu va'o ku .ei mi pu cusku «lu xu ri cmene lo ba'e selsa'a li'u» —sei la .alis. cu sevzi dragau— li'u»

ni'o «lu ie nai .i .ei na go'i .i frica mutce .i lo ba'e selsa'a cu selcme «lu lo tamsmi jo'u lo tadji li'u» .i ku'i ri sy ba'e cmene po'o .i xu do jimpe li'u»

ni'o «lu .y va'o ku ma ba'e du lo selsa'a —sei la .alis. noi ca mulno lo ka se cfipu cu cusku— li'u»

ni'o «lu mi pu pu'o casnu la'e di'u —sei la xirsoi cu cusku— .i lo selsa'a cu ba'e du je'u «lu lo nu zutse lo vrogai li'u» .i je lo selsa'a cu se finti lo sevzi be mi li'u»

mi'e la selpa'i mu'o

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