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Re: [lojban] Logos Initiative



On 9/15/2014 2:22 PM, TR NS wrote:
I don't see how a fork can be avoided. I think it's become very clear
that Lojban, pretty much as it is presently documented, is how the
language is going to stay. The persons in charge give some service to
change by "usage" and potential consideration of proposals after full
documentation of the current language is complete. But how many decades
are we to wait for that to happen?

I think we are closer than you imagine. Robin is working on the next edition of CLL this week, and I am reasonably sure it will be out when we need it next year.

The consideration of proposals could take a long time, or relatively little. If the proposers document their proposed changes in the form of change pages to CLL, it makes it fairly easy to consider those changes and incorporate them relatively quickly (as well as to understand how minor or major a given proposal is).

And can it actually ever be complete?
And doesn't the whole notion of "completion" work against the notion of
change?

If the language is essentially complete and well-documented, I hope and expect that the pressure for change will fall off. Right now we have 15-odd years of accumulated but undocumented change proposals. After they are decided, then one would hope that new proposals would come at a slower rate. If they don't, then any project that you come up with is just as doomed as Lojban to the same fate.

Besides, starting a new project also allows us to take a step back and
reconsider things that would simply not be possible otherwise.

You'd be surprised as to the sort of things that were "reconsidered" in prior iterations. Look at guaspi and Voksigid for prior efforts to reconsider Lojban.

lojbab

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