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[lojban] C-sets



I was reading up on xorlo today, trying to figure out what it says as opposed to what various people seem to think it says – and possibly what later changed actually make it say, when I was reminded that Lojban still has C-sets in its repertoire. The not said that these are little used. What a pity! C-sets have some advantages over L-sets (mereological hola, pluralities, etc.) which could be exploited in some situations rather handily. The problem is that we tend to take sentences involving them in a fairly literal way, following (Cantorian) set theory rather than Lojban. In set theory of the usual sort, the only properties that sets can have are size and taking things as members or other sets as subsets (and various things derivative from these). But there is no reason, other than habit, why a set can't be said to carry a piano or surround a building. Allowing this, that letting a C-set to have properties that grow out of the properties of its members, has certain advantages in some cases. The simplest is that C-sets have two “among” relations, one exclusively for individuals and another not. This removes – or at least alleviates – a lot of complexity with L-sets, which has to keep shifting back and forth on the issue (quantifiers on L-set expressions – some of them anyhow – are restricted to individuals, even when subsets might be more handy, for example.). Another useful feature of C-sets is that they can be empty, so that, unlike 'lo no broda', 'lo'e no broda' is a meaningful, referential, _expression_. Exactly what all sets might be used for and just how to exploit them is not clear, though I think all the needed pieces already exist and are grammatical. For now, I just want to place the possibilities into the mix of expanding consciousness for usage.

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