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Re: [lojban] tosmabru test: intelligible explanation sought



On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
My mental algorithm is a somewhat more unified version of yours. I look at it as CMAVO-X. If X would be a gismu form or a lujvo form, then CMAVO-X is CMAVO X. Otherwise it stays together. The CMAVO in CVC-X is the CV; the CMAVO in CV'V-X is the CV'V; the CMAVO in CVV-X is the CVV. We fix the first case with a {y} hyphen; we fix the other two cases with a consonant hyphen ({r}, {n}, {l}, in that order).

Yes. athough for the r-hyphen case the condition "if X would be a gismu form or a lujvo form" is not enough, it could also be one or more cmavo forms followed by a gismu form, a lujvo form, or nothing: e,g,  CVV+CVV requires -r-, CVV+CVV+CCVCV requires -r-, and so on.

One nice thing about this view is that it shows how "tosmabru" and "slinku'i" are dual to one another. "slinku'i" is the manifestation of the rule that when X is a zi'evla (fu'ivla in CLL terminology), CMAVO-X does not fragment.

I think you mean "when X is a slinku'i". A slinku'i is not a valid zi'evla  

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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