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On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 6:46 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de <mailto:seladwa@gmx.de>> wrote: I.e. we cannot easily say "three students are surrounding the building" without bringing in a dummy {lo} that only serves to give us a plural via inner quantifiers (even though there is no referent we wish to refer to). It's not *that* bad: {.i su'o da ci de poi tadni zo'u da gunma de gi'e sruri lo dinju}
As xorxes already pointed out, this singularizes. It is not a plural statement. I do not consider it a satisfying solution because it forces the speaker to talk about masses when they only want to talk about students.
"There exists an X and three students Y such that X has Y as mass elements and X surrounds the building." I am not sure whether one must explicitly state {da ci mei} in this situation, but of course we can do that if needed.
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