* Friday, 2014-11-07 at 17:58 -0300 - Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Martin Bays <mbays@sdf.org> wrote: > > * Wednesday, 2014-11-05 - Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>: > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Martin Bays <mbays@sdf.org> wrote: > > > > * Tuesday, 2014-11-04 - Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>: > > > > > And for non-tenses, by analogy I think it has to be > > > > > broda .i [tag] bo brode ~ broda .i broda [tag] lo nu brode > > > I was speculating on what the second proposition would be when a logical > > > connective is involved. Nothing really makes much sense though. > > Is it so bad for it to be {brode}, completing the symmetry with the > > tense case? > > It's unintuitive for me, it doesn't really fit the surface form. I see what you mean. But CLL is clear that brode is claimed, so I'll go with that. > > > > ca ro nu mi xagji kei mi klama lo zarci .e ba bo lo zdani > > > > -> ca ro nu mi xagji kei da poi nu mi klama lo zarci zo'u ge da > > > > fasnu gi ba da mi klama lo zdani > > > > > > ca ro nu mi xagji kei ge ko'a goi lo nu mi klama lo zarci cu fasnu gi ba > > > ko'a mi klama lo zdani > > > > > > would work just as well, without introducing more events than were > > > there in the original. > > > > But then we have a use of {lo} which isn't constant with respect to the > > universal quantifier. I thought we didn't want to allow those? > > I would say it's a constant. It's the same event that happens more than > once. Just as when I say "ca ro nu mi klama lo zarci kei mi penmi la djan" > doesn't require it to be the same time-slice of John every time. But if ko'a is a constant (kind of an) event, what does {ba ko'a mi klama lo zdani} mean? I understand the original sentence as having multiple pairs of goings, with a time relationship claimed for each pair. Martin
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