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Re: [lojban] Re: se klani be lo kafkylerfu



On Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:31:49 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:


2014-11-08 17:15 GMT+03:00 TR NS <tran...@gmail.com>:


On Sunday, November 2, 2014 12:26:12 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:
just for the record. some stats.
we take irc logs, only sentences in lojban.
we count the number of words with a given letter multiplied by their frequency divided by the number*frequency of all words. If the same letter occurs more than once in a word we count it as a singular occurrence. We limit ourselves only to the first 3000 most frequent words.

we get:
[x]  - found in 2.7% of all spoken in IRC logs words
['] - 16.8%
[c] - 13.9%
[cx'] - 31.75% (at least one of those letters in each word)
[x'] - 19.47% (at least one of those letters in each word)
[cx] followed by a consonant - 2.11%

to'u one of three words contains at least one of the three letters: ['] or [x] or [c].

So what can be done about it?  I think it's clear that there are too many "static noise" sounds in the language. And as a logical language there is no reason that it has to rank so low in sound quality (one need only look at online polls to see that Chinese, which has similar qualities, never ranks well).

What? Impossible. Mandarin has two levels of fighting statis noise: tones and the rest part of the sound system that to some degree overlap.


Hmm... I don't mean static as in "hard to understand" I just mean the nature of the sound which doesn't rank high as an aesthetically pleasant sound. Chinese consistently ranks in the top of worst sounding language polls.
 
May be there is something wrong with the noise chosen so that other languages win?
What about Portuguese?


That only time I've seen the sound of Portuguese praised is when they specifically single out Brazilian Portuguese.

Btw, it would be interesting to see `j` added to the above stats.

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