Re: [lojban] Re: tersmu 0.2

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

2014-11-09 19:52 GMT+03:00 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

Why not then say that

{mi nelci la betis semau la mark} can mean "I like Betty more than Mark" where it in fact should have only one meaning "I like Betty more than Mark does." ?

Why is the version without "ne" equivalent to "mi ne semau la mark cu nelci la betis"? Shouldn't it be equivalent to "la mark cu se zmadu lo nu mi nelci la betis", whatever that may mean? 

Than what would zmadu3 mean there?

I have no idea, I don't think it makes much sense. We have:

(1) mi nelci la betis se mau la mark

(2) mi ne se mau la mark cu nelci la betis

(3) mi nelci la betis ne se mau la mark

You say (1) can only mean something like (2), but the usual interpretation of sumti tcita is that they relate their sumti to the whole bridi in which they appear as a term, not to the x1 of that bridi. That gives "la mark cu se zmadu lo nu mi nelci la betis", which doesn't make much sense. Alternatively, something that would make sense would be "la mark cu se zmadu fi lo ka nelci", but that still leaves us with two options: "la mark cu se zmadu mi lo ka ce'u nelci la betis" or "la mark cu se zmadu la betis lo ka mi nelci ce'u". Both seem to be available as interpretations for (1).

mu'o mi'e xorxes

 

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