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Re: [lojban] Re: tersmu 0.2




On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Martin Bays <mbays@sdf.org> wrote:

OK.

This seems like a rather baroque solution!

What's the advantage of adding this layer of indirection?

I don't think I'm adding any layers. All I'm saying is that a bridi refers to one thing rather than to a whole family of things. 

One thing which seems like a clear disadvantage to me:
e.g. in this example
    ca ro nu mi xagji kei mi klama lo zarci .e ba bo lo zdani
    -> ca ro nu mi xagji kei ko'a fasnu .i ko'a nu ge ko'e fasnu gi ko'i fasnu
        .i ko'i nu ko'o balvi ko'e .i ko'e nu mi klama lo zarci
        .i ko'o nu mi klama lo zdani
, there's still no specific indication that the instance of ko'e
witnessing {ko'e fasnu} is the same as the instance of {ko'e} witnessing
{ko'o balvi ko'e}. The only connection is that they're both meant to
happen at around the same time.

You introduced instances of ko'e in your indirect metalinguistic interpretation, but no instances of ko'e are required to interpret the sentence. In the direct interpretation there's just ko'e. You check whether ko'o and ko'e satisfy balvi( , ) at the right time, not that any new entity called intance of ko'e satisfies it. Or how do you interpret "ca ro nu mi xagji kei mi mi ctigau"? Is there any indication that the time-slice of "mi" witnessing the first "mi" is the same time-slice of "mi" witnessing the second "mi" of "mi mi ctigau"? 

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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