Re: [lojban] On the meanings of the causal gismu

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wrote:

Also, if { ro da zo'u da banzu da .i ku'i na ku ro da zo'u da rinka da .i la'a no da zo'u da rinka da }, then is {banzu} a causal relation? If causal relations have to do with temporal sequences of events (when X happens, Y necessarily happens afterwards), then {banzu} doesn't seem to be a causal relation, and seems to be closer to {nibli} (logical implication).

ie .i lo nu rinka cu banzu gi'e nai ku'i sarcu lo nu banzu

 

Except that {banzu} usually takes event arguments and {nibli} takes propositions/bridi as arguments, is there any meaning difference between {nibli} and {banzu}?

pe'i zo nibli cu srana lo logji poi curmi lo nu cpacu lo se nibli lo nibli .i je zo banzu cu srana lo cmarai be lo klani poi curmi lo nu lo se banzu cu zasti ja fasnu ja jetnu

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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