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Re: [lojban] {te fanza}?



"This also constitutes a good use case for {jai}: .i lo sance cu jai fanza mi".  Thanks for the reminder that x1 should be an abstraction.  Question: the definitions of fanza that I've seen call for an event in x1. Does that allow for property abstractions?  I think I'm comfortable with the notion that a property can annoy, even if an event is required to "experience" most/all properties.

On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 11:05:12 PM UTC-5, Jacob Thomas Errington wrote:
On 06/01/2015 12:43 AM, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) wrote:
Seems odd that {fanza} doesn't have a place for how or by what aspect {lo fanza} is annoying {lo se fanza}.

I use {ka}-abstractions in fanza1 as a property of fanza2, the rationale being that you can't be annoying by things that you don't experience in some way.
Hence, if a sound is annoying you (as you listen to it, for instance), then you can write {.i tu'a lo sance cu fanza mi} or more precisely {.i lo ka ce'u tirna lo sance cu fanza mi}.
This also constitutes a good use case for {jai}: .i lo sance cu jai fanza mi

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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