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[lojban] Re: Nomenclature of the periodic table





Em quinta-feira, 2 de junho de 2016 17:31:34 UTC+3, la pluja escreveu:
Something that has bugged me the last few days is the current nomenclature of the chemical elements.
I am relatively new to lojban but what I have learned quite early is that lojban tries to name every object/idea/concept systematically.
So for an example the lojban names for days in a week are named after there position in the week.
Monday (or "is a monday") for example is pavdei (a construct of the rafsi of pa and djedi), literally "one-day".

On the other hand the current nomenclature of chemical elements (https://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/dikni_selratni_cartu) is based on their trivia names in latin/english or whatsoever.

Why is this? It's like calling monday mondei in lojba.

I propose the chemical elements are called by the number of protons in their nuclei, which defines the chemical element (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_element).

An possible implementation would be to combine the rafsi of the numbers with the rafsi of ratni.

An example:
 pavrat
x1 is an atom of atomic number 1 of isotope number/atomic weight x2; x1 is hydrogen of isotope number/atomic weight x2
 
and/or

x1 is a quantity of/contains/is made of hydrogen

The latter definition could of course also be made with gunma or something similar.

Any thoughts on that?

But why not just use e.g. {lo ratni be li pa bei li re} for Deuterium etc.?
For ions like CH3- separate single words could be used of course.
 

(Another proposal which might be discussed is if protons, neutrons and such should be called something equivalent to "up-up-down" [proton]
instead of protoni or nurtoni respectively. Then it would be necessary to define unambigious valsi for quantum states )

I am neither a physician nor an experienced lojbanist but this simply bugged me several days, so what do you think of it?

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