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Re: [bpfk] The powers you give me I will lay down when this crisis has been abated!

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Subject: Re: [bpfk] The powers you give me I will lay down when this crisis has been abated!
From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:03:02 -0800
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Ah, forgot to mention: the subject (and the quote) are a joke; I
ain't layin' down *shit*.  :)  Oust me if I suck, until then, I'ma
work my ass off.

-Robin

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 03:19:24PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> 
>   "It is with great reluctance that I have agreed to this calling. I
>   love democracy. I love the Republic. The powers you give me I will
>   lay down when this crisis has been abated! My first act, with this
>   new authority, is to create a Grand Army of the Republic, to
>   counter the increasing threat of the Separatists."
> 
>   --Palpatine announces the creation of the Grand Army of the
>   Republic
> 
> I just thought I should be clear: it *is*, in fact, my intention to
> put arbitrary amounts of work into cleaning everything up entirely
> by personal fiat.  Y'all can oust me when it's done if you like.  :)
> See my "what I'm going to do" post from a while back, but with less
> community input.  :)
> 
> -Robin
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> -----
> 
> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:27:49 -0300
> From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
> To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [bpfk] What I'm going to do.
> 
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:28:32AM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote:
> >>
> >> Every January 1st. the BPFK publishes a very concise "State of the
> >> Language" report, that looks something like this:
> >
> > Works for me.  You gonna tell them about your other idea?  :D
> 
> As you pointed out, the BPFK currently has a very informal structure.
> The only structured part for now is the jatna position. Therefore,
> until another structure develops, the yearly "State of the Language"
> report will be issued by the jatna in the name of the BPFK, with the
> final decision on its contents fully at the jatna's discretion.
> 
> Of course we all expect and know that the jatna will take the job
> seriously and make whatever consultations they deem necessary before
> acting, but the final decision is the jatna's alone. They might for
> example prepare a draft report two weeks before January 1st, ask for
> comments, and then make their decision based on the feedback they
> receive, or whatever other method they find suitable to prepare the
> report. The report is about the "State of the Language", not about the
> "Final Definition of the Language from Here to Eternity", so there's
> no reason to worry if it's not perfect in every minor detail.
> 
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
> 
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> ----- Forwarded message from Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.org> -----
> 
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 21:24:10 +0200
> From: Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.org>
> To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [bpfk] What I'm going to do.
> 
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 04:27:49PM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> > <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:28:32AM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Every January 1st. the BPFK publishes a very concise "State of the
> > >> Language" report, that looks something like this:
> > >
> > > Works for me.  You gonna tell them about your other idea?  :D
> > 
> > As you pointed out, the BPFK currently has a very informal structure.
> > The only structured part for now is the jatna position. Therefore,
> > until another structure develops, the yearly "State of the Language"
> > report will be issued by the jatna in the name of the BPFK, with the
> > final decision on its contents fully at the jatna's discretion.
> > 
> > Of course we all expect and know that the jatna will take the job
> > seriously and make whatever consultations they deem necessary before
> > acting, but the final decision is the jatna's alone. They might for
> > example prepare a draft report two weeks before January 1st, ask for
> > comments, and then make their decision based on the feedback they
> > receive, or whatever other method they find suitable to prepare the
> > report. The report is about the "State of the Language", not about the
> > "Final Definition of the Language from Here to Eternity", so there's
> > no reason to worry if it's not perfect in every minor detail.
> 
> That sounds like the right way of going about things. There is of course the slight risk that a rogue BPFKJ might do something reckless, but in any case they do not wield _absolute_ power - they report to the LLG, which can remove them, and revert their changes.
> 
> It is better to have a decision that stands unless a majority of the members are dissatisfied enough to reverse it, than to not have a decision at all unless everyone agrees.
> 
> -- 
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> ----- Forwarded message from bancus <ted.reed@gmail.com> -----
> 
> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:44:41 -0700 (PDT)
> From: bancus <ted.reed@gmail.com>
> To: BPFK <bpfk-list@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: [bpfk] Re: What I'm going to do.
> 
> On Oct 16, 12:27 pm, Jorge Llambías <jjllamb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > As you pointed out, the BPFK currently has a very informal structure.
> > The only structured part for now is the jatna position. Therefore,
> > until another structure develops, the yearly "State of the Language"
> > report will be issued by the jatna in the name of the BPFK, with the
> > final decision on its contents fully at the jatna's discretion.
> >
> > Of course we all expect and know that the jatna will take the job
> > seriously and make whatever consultations they deem necessary before
> > acting, but the final decision is the jatna's alone. They might for
> > example prepare a draft report two weeks before January 1st, ask for
> > comments, and then make their decision based on the feedback they
> > receive, or whatever other method they find suitable to prepare the
> > report. The report is about the "State of the Language", not about the
> > "Final Definition of the Language from Here to Eternity", so there's
> > no reason to worry if it's not perfect in every minor detail.
> >
> 
> For what it's worth, I agree with all of this and believe that Robin
> would excel as this sort of jatna.
> 
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> ----- Forwarded message from Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> -----
> 
> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 12:34:07 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com>
> To: BPFK <bpfk-list@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: [bpfk] Re: What I'm going to do.
> 
> > For what it's worth, I agree with all of this and believe that Robin
> > would excel as this sort of jatna.
> 
> Second.
> 
> I believe that Robin has always had the best interest in mind for the
> language, has always had the perfect insight, and is a perfect balance
> between Arnt's "No." policy and Jorge's "Well if we accept my proposal
> on X..." policy.
> 
> So, my vote goes to Robin.
> (Can I be vice-jatna?)
> 
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is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false"
is "na nei".   My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/

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