Re: [bpfk] Re: O HAI I FIXT UR LODGEBANZ

[John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>]

2010/10/15 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:

> OK. I think my issue in the case of Lojban is that quantifiers need to
> be fronted for them to have scope over the matrix, whereas questions
> have matrix scope without being fronted. I find it somewhat dissonant.

Quantifiers are just arguments, whereas questions are jufra-level
modifiers that change the overall illocutionary force.  They shouldn't
be compared.

> OK. That's how I have defined it in jbovlaste. I don't really think
> that meaning particularly deserves a cmavo, but I don't need "jei" for
> anything else, so I don't care.

Well, what gets a NU is like what gets a BAI or a UI: fairly
arbitrary.  \gua-spi has a very parsimonious ontology in which only
sedu'u exists, but there are problems: "having a heart" and "having a
kidney" are different ka's, but everything that has a heart in fact
has kidneys, so \gua-spi can't distinguish.

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