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Re: [bpfk] Question on {z} vs. {dz} and {ts}





2015-01-18 11:00 GMT+03:00 Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>:
Where? All I see in your post is "should we get rid oz [z]" and "if we get rid of [z], we'll need to do this stuff too".

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I suppose to do that one needs to always insert buffer between {dz}, never pronounce {dz} as an affricate and may be even always insert {y} in {radzu'e}. 

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On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
Wait, I offered a solution. Why didn't you comment on it?

2015-01-17 22:49 GMT+03:00 John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>:
Gleki Arxokuna scripsit:

> Today I was reminded of one "flaw" in phonology namely, the presense of [z]
> in Lojban.

If we go down that road there is no end to it.  English has no /x/,
Arabic has no /b/, Chinese not only lacks /z/ but also /h/ and the
sounds written "e" and "o" are more like Lojban "y" and "uy".
Spanish has no /y/ nor /c/.  Hindi is missing /h/, as is Russian.
Finally all that would be left is p~b, t~d, g~k, and a, i, u.

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