On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:38 AM, guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com> wrote:jo'au zantufa_1.1ni'o lo si'o opservative cu na sai srana zo za'aie ru'e .i lo valsi po'u zoi gy observative gy cu se cerda ma'a la loglan .i na bauske valsi .i JCB tai di'e ciksi"But by 1975 it had still not become clear to me where the sensible limits of lo-usage lay. It wasn't until a few years after the publication of the first Loglan paperbacks in 1975--not until 1978, in fact, when John Parks-Clifford and I were discussing the merits of Scott Layson's proposal that we add a formal "observative" to the language (Scott's proposal had been that we enable our observative with a regular inflection of the predicate)--that both of us discovered, more or less simultaneously, that we already had an observative! We had lo. It was then that Lo fagro! and Lo simba! entered the language. To mean what? Well, of course to mean the purest of Trobriandic ideas, namely that some manifestation of Mr. Fire or Mr. Lion is prowling in the neighborhood. Not much of these gigantic individuals need ever be observed to precipitate observations of them. We shoutFire! or Lions! in English--Lo fagro! or Lo simba! in Loglan--at the merest whiff or cough. A big toe--or a little toe, for that matter--is enough to precipitate the observation that the "giant" to whom it "belongs" is in the neighborhood. This discovery--for the L observative was in truth discovered, not invented (we already had it, remember; it was Scott's invention that we didn't adopt)--made it very clear to me that the limits of lo-usage in L ought to be as similar to those of the Trobriand Islanders as we could make it. Accordingly I personally began to use lo, and to urge others to use it, in observative-like ways: that is, to celebrate any manifestation of these giants[...]"
i zu'u zo za'a cu se cusku tezu'e lo nu lo cusku cu jungau lo te cusku lo du'u lo cusku cu ganse dai zu'unai lo si'o opservative cu sidbo lo nu frati kei lo cuskui sa'unai la ku'ain ca lo nu pensi lo si'o opservative cu te sidbo lo nu fanva fo da poi na slabui ce'o ky jinvi lo ji'a du'u ro da poi cmene cu ka'e se basti de poi selbri to mu'a zo pegasus toi keie lo ji'a du'u lo ka zvati cu du lo ka se datnyvaui pi ro la'e di'u cu jicmu la lojbani lo du'u xokau va'e fa lo du'u la lojban la ku'ain cu srana cu puzu te tavla loi pijyske mi lo banjupunu to zoizoi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzqhNYCWKLo zoi toii mi pu tavla ji'a fi lo du'u lo finti be la loglan a la lojban cu na'e rau va'e co jimpe fi lo pijyske po la ku'aini ku'i mi jinvi lo du'u ganai da'i lo ve ciksi be la lojban cu rau va'e co sarxe lo pijyske po la ku'ain gi frili fa lo nu lo jbotadni cu jimpe fi lo logji stura ne la lojbanje'e .i ku'i pe'i la ku'ain na pu pilno lo valsi po'u zoi gy observative gy
ni'o za'a lo so'o se jbobau cu se cinri lo po'o si'o simsa lo rarbau gi'e se genturfa'i lo cabra kei enai lo si'o logji vu'o po'e la lojbani e'a lo drata be mi cu cuxna lo nu la lojban cu tutci po'o lo nu lo remna joi lo minji cu tavla simxu kei gi'e cirko lo si'o logjii va'o lo nu go'i kei mi cliva la lojban gi'e ku'i ka'e za'o jmive ka'ai la zantufa noi ru'i ralte lo si'o logjii ku'i e'o co'u te cmene la lojban lu logji bangu li'u pe'uoi oi oi zo'o e'o ko io na cliva .i zo'o nai pe'i rau ma'a ja'a se cinri lo logji mlana be la lojbanmu'o mi'e xorxes--
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