jai ka mystification (was: RE: lo'ie != lo'ei

["And Rosta" <a.rosta@lycos.co.uk>]

Jordan:
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 10:02:40PM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote:
> > No objection here. We seem to be investigating a new level of rigor which,
> > for once, I appreciate. "I like chocolate" is, at least, mi nelci lo jai
> > ka cakla, whether or not this is aliased to this evening's interpretation
> > of lo'e/le'e 
> [...]
> 
> But assuming the same interpretation of jai from eariler, mi nelci
> lo jai ka cakla is the same as mi nelci lo cakla... 

Am I right that {tu'a da broda} corresponds to {lo jai broda}?
If so, then {lo jai ka cakla} corresponds to {tu'a da ka cakla}
and {lo jai ka} means "some x such that an abstraction involving
x is the property of such and such". I have no idea how that could
be useful or how it gets to claimed to be seka or poi'i.

Confused.

--And.