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Re: [jboske] Re: Unique == Misterhood? (was: lo'e gadri: can we converge towards aresolution?




la jorden cusku di'e


> > > So, if I have 3 bottles of water, they can be individually "le
> > > djacu" or massively "lei djacu". Likewise, if I'm talking about
> > > the 7 oceans, they can be individually "le ze djacu" or lojbanmassively
> > > "lei ze djacu".
> >
> >I agree with every word of this.
>
> We all do, I think. Perhaps And will object to "'le djacu'
> is a mass in the english sense of 'mass nouns'". But otherwise
> we all agree, because that's the collective {lei} being described.


How's it the collective lei? I deliberately called it a "lojbanmass"
so as to avoid whatever this "collective" and "substance" crud is.
Lojbanmasses are something which is probably not precisely equivalent
to either.

You can tell it's the collective sense because you are talking of 3 somethings and 7 somethings. Substances are not a number of things. The substance does not have an underlying set the way the distributive and the collective have.

mu'o mi'e xorxes



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