> > > So, if I have 3 bottles of water, they can be individually "le
> > > djacu" or massively "lei djacu". Likewise, if I'm talking about
> > > the 7 oceans, they can be individually "le ze djacu" or
lojbanmassively
> > > "lei ze djacu".
> >
> >I agree with every word of this.
>
> We all do, I think. Perhaps And will object to "'le djacu'
> is a mass in the english sense of 'mass nouns'". But otherwise
> we all agree, because that's the collective {lei} being described.
How's it the collective lei? I deliberately called it a "lojbanmass"
so as to avoid whatever this "collective" and "substance" crud is.
Lojbanmasses are something which is probably not precisely equivalent
to either.