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[jbovlaste] Re: crab
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- Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: crab
- From: John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>
- Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:32:02 -0400
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On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> Before I get too involved with reading the replies, I'm going to make my
> suggestion, {xamsi jukni}, differentiating from lobster {clani xamsi jukni}.
> Are there other ocean-dwelling arachnids besides the lobster and crab? If
> so, {cukla xamsi jukni} for crab.
The trouble with ideas like this is precisely that nobody knows
offhand which non-insect arthropods (which is the extended sense of
"jukni") live in the ocean. On investigation, not only are there
shrimp (infraorder Caridea), krill (order Euphausiacea) , and
barnacles (infraclass Cirripedia), but there is actually an arthropod
group called "sea spiders" (class Pycnogonida) in English, which look
very much like spiders though they are not arachnids. If I heard a
lujvo based on "xamsi jukni", I'd certainly think of sea spiders.
Unknown fu'ivla like "juknrcie" (type 3 Chinese) or braxiura (type 4
Linnaean) may be opaque, but at least they aren't actively misleading.