[jbovlaste] Re: zu'edji

Maybe neither word is necessary. xorxes, if I say "do bilga lo nu rinka lo nu lo do cteki vreji cu jai mulno" and you want to say "mi <intend/plan-on> lo nu gasnu tu'a lo cteki vreji". what would you put in for that notion of "intend to do an action". I don't think {djica} is right because you don't necessarily "want" to do it (i.e. if you somehow discovered that you were exempt from filing taxes you would probably be happy because you are no longer obliged to do them). But at the same time I'm not sure that {platu} makes sense because how much planning really happens when you think to yourself "I really _should_ to do ~X~ soon... ok, I've decided... I intend to do ~X~ tonight". I haven't planned any aspect of HOW I will be doing ~X~, only decided that I will do it.

oh... there we go. How about {zu'ejdi}. I have decided to do ~X~. I intend to do ~X~. That seems right, I think.

2010/8/13 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I propose changing the definition of {zu'edji} just a bit so that instead
> of:
> Definition: z1 intends/wishes to do z2 for z3
> we have:
> Definition: z1 wishes/desires to do z2 for purpose z3

Sounds reasonable, but in what case would "zu'edji" be preferable to
plain "djica"? I find two relevant hits for "zu'edji" with Google. The
first one is:

mi pu pensi lo nu do zu'edji lo nu cusku lu pixra li'u

which seems like a fancy way of saying

mi pu pensi lo nu do djica lo nu cusku lu pixra li'u

or just:

mi pu pensi lo nu do skudji lu pixra li'u

(Though probably "krici" or "jinvi" would make more sense than "pensi".)

The second hit (from the "cmaci" article in wikipedia) is:

.i le selpla be la .xilbert. zu'edji lonu gasnu loza'i lo cmaci cu
se jicmu lo jdari ke .aksioma jicmu

I asume a "cu" is missing in front of "zu'edji", but a "selpla"
wishing or intending to do something is strange. Also "se jicmu lo
(...) jicmu" is kind of redundant. I would suggest something like:

.i lo selpla be la .xilbert. cu nu gasnu lo nu lo cmaci cu jdari se
jicmu lo .aksioma ciste

or similar.

> and create a new lujvo: {zukpla} with a definition like:
> Definition: z1 intends/plans to do z2 (event) for purpose z3

OK, but same question as for "zu'edji". In what case would "zukpla" be
preferable to plain "platu"? (No hits for usage of "zukpla".)

mu'o mi'e xorxes