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[jbovlaste] Re: crab



fi'i la xedbig .u'i

We really are the most consolidated group of grammar natzi's in the world aren't we?

Also, what newbies?  This is jbovlaste.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:33 PM, John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

> {xamsi jukni} = "sea spider";

Okay, let's go with that and see where the rest of your definitions take us.

> {cukla xamsi jukni} = "crab";

"Cukla xamsi jukni" would be an arthropod living in a round ocean (as
opposed to those square oceans you see sold in better shops
everywhere).  If you mean "cukla ke xamsi jukni", that would be a
round sea spider.

> {clani xamsi jukni} = "lobster";

Lobsters (inserting "ke") are small sea spiders, then?

No, clani is long, as you well know. Stop confusing the newbies.
 
> {cmalu ke clani xamsi jukni} = "shrimp";

So when I order a small lobster in a Lojbanistan restaurant, I should
expect to get a shrimp?

No, because you would not be ordering a {cmalu ke clani ke xamsi jukni}, you would be ordering a {cmalu clakemxasyjukni}, or a {cmalu claxasyjukni}, or some other {cmalu <lujvo for lobster>}
 
> {mutce cmalu ke clani xamsi jukni} = "krill";

So now I get krill instead of either lobsters or shrimp?  I guess they
will have to provide me with a net to dip them out of the water with.

See above.
 
> {to'e muvdu xamsi jukni} = "barnacle".

So (inserting "ke") barnacles are sea spiders that don't move?

You're welcome to provide a more accurate description of the sea-dwelling crustacean with the well-known trait of spending it's entire life attached to some surface such as the hull of a ship or the skin of a whale. Since {jukni} includes crustaceans, {xamsi jukni} includes all sea-dwelling {jukni}, and barnacles are the only {xamsi jukni} that {to'e muvdu}, I'd call it good enough.
 

> Not misleading, and jbopre don't have to look it up.

That turns out not to be the case.

Alright, I admit that mi kakne lonu morji pilno zo ke is shoddy at best. Sue me. You understood me, and that's what matters. Your arguments against my suggestions are more attacks than stances in any event.


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