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[jbovlaste] Re: fu'ivla for liquors
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- Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: fu'ivla for liquors
- From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:53:40 -0300
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On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Craig Daniel <teucer@pobox.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.org> wrote:
>>
>> {uiski} is not a valid lujvo because *-ui- doesn't have rafsi form. So {uiski} is in fact a well-formed type 4 fu'ivla.
>
> The first sentence there is true, obviously. The fu'ivla appears to
> nonetheless fail a sort of backwards slinku'i test, in that ".uiski
> kabri" falls apart into ".ui skikabri," and "skikabri" is a valid
> lujvo.
"uiski kabri" is not "ui skikabri" just like "daski kabri" is not "da skikabri".
In "uiski kabri" or "daski kabri", the stress on the first syllable
tells you that you have a brivla uiski/daski.
If you want the cmavo ui/da, and you want to stress it, then you need
to pause after it if the next word is a brivla that can lose its first
syllable (like "skikabri") or else it will grab it.
So "uiski" is fine, just like "daski".
And it has also been in jbovlaste for quite a while.
mu'o mi'e xorxes