----- Original Message ----
From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 6:35:33 PM
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Strange modals
On Nov 29, 2007 12:33 PM, A. PIEKARSKI <
totus@rogers.com> wrote:
> I must admit I still have problems knowing when to use {di'o} and when to use {tu'i}.
The general way to indicate a location is {bu'u}, which only indicates
location.
{sedi'o} indicates location+confinement. {tu'i} indicates location+permanence.
In cases of location+permaence+confinement both {sedi'o} and {tu'i} may
apply, and which one to use may depend on what you want to emphasize more.
zvati: x1 is located in x2.
se stuzi: x1 is permanently located in x2.
diklo: x1 is
located in x2 and nowhere else within x3.
Many thanks! This actually explains why I found it so confusing. It seems to me that possibly most cases of 'in' involve both confinement and permanence, so there appeared to be no clear rule about when to use {di'o} and when to use {tu'i}.