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[lojban-beginners] Re: Word for "bless"



(looks like you made the same mistake too. It's OK...)

On Dec 5, 2007 1:57 AM, turnip <turnip@bcpl.net> wrote:
(looks like you just posted this to me, not to the list).

>===== Original Message From Penguino <spheniscine@gmail.com> =====
>For those who noticed that I posted the same question to the main Lojban
>list, sorry about that. I was a bit confused about my subscriptions.
>
>Anyway, I just looked up my dictionary, which gives 7 meanings:
>
>1.    to consecrate or sanctify by a religious rite; make or pronounce holy.
>2.    to request of God the bestowal of divine favor on: Bless this house.
>3.    to bestow good of any kind upon: a nation blessed with peace.
>4.    to extol as holy; glorify: Bless the name of the Lord.
>5.    to protect or guard from evil (usually used interjectionally): Bless
>you! Bless your innocent little heart!
>6.    to condemn or curse: I'll be blessed if I can see your reasoning.
>Bless me if it isn't my old friend!
>7.    to make the sign of the cross over or upon: The Pope blessed the
>multitude.
>
>My thoughts: *cesygau* should work for No. 1. No. 2 should probably involve
>*cpedu*, although the given example is faulty; it's a command directed to
>God: *ko *[bless3]* le vi zdani*. No. 3 is the one I meant in my question.
>The place structure should probably parallel that of *dapma*. As per Mark's
>suggestion in the main Lojban list, I vote that *dapma* should be
>"neutralized" in similar fashion as *cnemu* and *dimna*, allowing the use of
>*zandapma* for this concept. No. 4 is the usage you mentioned (which,
>incidentally, is also used by Christians as well). I am also rather curious
>as to how this should be translated. Perhaps it should involve *zabna*, the
>same way that *mabla* has been used as a swear word (*le cmene be le nolcei
>cu zabna*); however the official definition does not match that usage of *
>mabla*. (in fact the official definition is rather unclear there)

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