[lojban-beginners] Re: zo bo

["Jorge Llambías" <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On 4/1/08, Vid Sintef <picos.picos@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  What are the two arguments of {nau}?
> >  What relationship does {nau} establish between them?
>
> The arguments are hidden, but the relationship seems to me clear.
> {mi do pu nelci gi'e nau bo prami}... My understanding is that 1) the
> event of prami is happening "right now" and 2) it was preceded by the
> event of nelci; {nau} sets a perspective in which the event of nelci
> is seen as a past.

For pu, ca, ba you can always make the relationship explicit like this:

broda .i pu bo brode -> lo nu brode cu purci lo nu broda
broda .i ca bo brode -> lo nu brode cu cabna lo nu broda
broda .i ba bo brode -> lo nu brode cu balvi lo nu broda

For {nau}, I would expect some selbri to express the nau-relationship:

broda .i nau bo brode -> lo nu brode cu nau zei co'e lo nu broda

but I'm not sure what that relationship would be. You suggest that
the x1 of {nau zei co'e} is an event that happens in the here-and-now
of the speaker (is that because brode has no tense of its own?), while
the x2 of {nau zei co'e} is an event whose tense relates it to the
here-and-now of the speaker. Is that right?

I think that's a possible way of dealing with the connective {nau bo},
but I don't think it's necessarily obvious.

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