[lojban-beginners] Re: Dictionary output

[Johan Pretorius <pretoriusjf@gmail.com>]

Wow, thanks all - I learned a lot from all your responses.  Unfortunately for all of you, I seem to be at that stage of learning where almost every answer engenders at least one more question! :-)

What does clanyvalsi mean? According to the rules given by xorxes, it breaks down into clan-y-valsi, right?  Except I can't find the rafsi clan anywhere, the closest I get is cla, from the gismu clani (long).  If this is the right one, howcome does it have the extra "n"?

I appear to have found an ambiguity:
>       Word: {dei}
>       Type: cmavo
> Gloss Word: {this utterance}

>       Word: {djedi}
>       Type: gismu
> Gloss Word: {full day}
>      rafsi: dje dei
Am I right in surmising that the rules of morphology will be such that a rafsi can never be confused for a cmavo?

> ...
> neither "gn" nor "nb" is a valid initial pair. "bongnanba" is a word of
> fu'ivla form that appears in the Book with no clue what it
> means. "bongynanba" and "bognanba", which are two forms of the same word,
> mean "bone bread", whatever that is.
Once again, I could not find the rafsi bong - the only rafsi for bongu seems to be [bog bo'u] - am I looking at the wrong sources?  (by the way, I'm using this dictionary, downloaded an hour ago - it seems to be the March 2009 edition).

And what is this "Book"?  It sounds interesting, like I should read it at some stage :-)

Oh yes, and one last note - I did not skip the zoi gy. ... gy. form because I was offended at your correction stevon, but merely because it seems silly to quote an almost exclusively English block of text - I think it a better token to keep my signiture in Lojban, until I can speak a bit more.

mu'o mi'e iu'an

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:59 AM, <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com> wrote:

In a message dated 6/22/2009 18:29:09 Eastern Daylight Time, jjllambias@gmail.com writes:

On 6/22/09, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
> The way "zoi" works, though, is that it signals a non-Lojban text coming
> next, but the text itself is surrounded by a syllable not included in that
> text.  So your text above could be given as "zoi gy. [non-Lojban text] gy."
> "gy" is often chosen to hint that the text is in English ("glico"), but any
> syllable will do, as long as it's not part of the text itself.

Not a syllable, it has to be a full Lojban word. It can be a
one-syllable word, like "gy", or a many-syllable word, for example: ""
zoi clanyvalsi ... clanyvalsi". It can't be a syllable that is not a
valid Lojban word, so "zoi gli ... gli" doesn't work, because the
syllable "gli" is not a valid Lojban word.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

ki'e
Thanks for the clarification.

mu'o mi'e stevon