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[lojban-beginners] Re: Site for beginners was: vlatai and logflash



Haha, I meant no offense! I've looked at a bunch of flashcard programs, but not all!

re: elephant idea -- what's that?

re: memnosyne -- I've installed it (on Ubuntu), and would love to try out the deck you mentioned!

re: Quizlet -- I tried quizlet a while back (and again after reading this email) and my connection is consistently reset (as it was last time I tried), which probably means it's very good, since China's censoring it! I'll fire up my proxy sometime and check it out.

The one thing that would make one of these services killer for me is import and export of plain old CSV files. That's why I like jMemorize, whereas things like Parley have flexibility but need pesky xml markup. Is Quizlet good for this?

The other reasons I like smart.fm are I think the study sessions are very well-executed containing automatic mp3 playback, and the prompts to type the answers work great with ascii lojban.

I guess my point of mentioning flashcards in the first place was to say that I don't think it makes sense to design the website to include flashcards when there's free alternatives that are already hosted, maintained and developed elsewhere, and that would also give lojban more opportunities for mainstream exposure at the same time.

mu'o mi'e .ku'us.

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 03:56, A. PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com> wrote:


From: Steven Lytle <lytlesw@gmail.com>Sent: Tue, December 22, 2009 1:07:11 PM

Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Site for beginners was: vlatai and logflash

Whatever happened to the Elephant idea?
 
stevo

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Oren <get.oren@gmail.com> wrote:
Yea, I think there's definitely some high-quality lessons on lojban.org already, and more good ones being produced on google wave as well. I see the two approaches (lessons and submitted sentences) as being a pretty solid model; there's two more things I think might complete the system:

Rich dictionary entries
I think that the idea to show rafsi in practical use is great; and I think the best way to flesh out gismu entries (and cmavo, eventually lujvo too) is to have dictionary entries that can have example sentences and comments/questions, a record for common questions that people have about usage etc. The entry for each word could (should) have rafsi examples if applicable, natural language origins if applicable, and example usage (possibly more).

Flash Cards
If people get the initiative to make flashcard groups for lessons, just make them and link to them on smart.fm, which seems to be the best free platform-independent flashcard solution I can find. The only things that come close are jar files (like jMemorize) or not as flexible or intuitive as smart.fm.
I like Quizlet and use it a lot. Why do you think it's not that good?
 
totus