[lojban-beginners] Re: Help! The Xorlo are attacking!

["A. PIEKARSKI" <totus@rogers.com>]

----- Original Message ----
> From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
> To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
> Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 3:00:54 PM
> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Help! The Xorlo are attacking!
> 
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 4:44 PM, A. PIEKARSKI <> ymailto="mailto:totus@rogers.com"; 
> href="mailto:totus@rogers.com";>totus@rogers.com> wrote:
>> From: 
> Jorge Llambías <> href="mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com";>jjllambias@gmail.com>
>
>> 
> At some point, after CLL and LfB were
>> written, we decided that using 
> "cmene" in English with this specialized
>> meaning was a bad idea, 
> because "cmene" doesn't mean and never meant that in
>> 
> Lojban.
>
> I understand what you are saying.  But when you say 
> "we", do you mean the BPFK
> (i.e. is it 'official')?

I mean we the 
> English speaking Lojban community. The BPFK does not
have any authority on 
> the English language, does it?

> And where is this decision 
> 'enshrined'?  Shouldn't it be on some
> BPFK page on the wiki?  After all, 
> when there is an apparent discrepency between
> CLL and jbovlaste, most 
> people who don't know the history will likely choose CLL as
> the final 
> authority.

I don't think any of those have any official authority on 
> English usage anyway.

Are you concerned about the meaning of "cmene" and 
> "cmevla" as used in
Lojban, or as used in English jargon when talking about 
> Lojban?

No.  My point was that as the substance of this discourse 
(the difference between cmevla and cmene) is not 
contained in CLL or 'Lojban for Beginners', it should be 
contained on a BFPK page on the wiki. Otherwise, the 
confusion will continue.

totus