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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: One popular Russian song in Lojban



{ro roi} means always. The word before {roi} needs to be a number, specifying "how many times".

{da voksa} translates pretty much to the phrase "есть голос", and in lojban makes {voksa} the word expressing the main relationship in the sentence (in lojban terms, {voksa} is the selbri). In the original, the main relationship was that of {rinka} (or taken literally, {cargau}).

The current sentence:
.i da voksa ri'a du'i lonu vofli
ku lo trina pluta ku macri'a mi
doesn't parse successfully, because there are two selbri ({voksa} and {macri'a}). Also, ri'a and du'i don't add together; it becomes something more like {ro'a zo'e du'i lo nu volfi ku}

Neither {to'o} nor {noi} are sumti. {to'o} is a tense tag, so when it precedes the selbri it means that the entire sentence (bridi) is in some sense leaving somewhere; when it precedes a sumti, it means that the action of the bridi is physically moving away from that sumti.

{noi} must follow a sumti, and whatever is in the {noi ... ku'o} must be a bridi, and that bridi describes the sumti.

{cu} instead of {fe} would have been grammatically wrong; {cu} must come immediately before the selbri.

{lo zu balvi} is a weird construction to me; it means "the thing which far in the past or in the future was/will be a future". Maybe {lo darbalvi} is better?

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:35 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
And I thought that "noi" wasn't attached to the previous sumti cuz sumti with embedded sumti should be expressed using "be .... be'o" 

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