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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: "mi prami do" or "mi cu prami do" ?



lo mi gerku is shorthand for lo gerku pe mi

Don't ask me why, I didn't make it up.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:14 AM, najrut <ruler11post@gmail.com> wrote:
This makes things even more strange.
Now tell me what is the difference between
"lo mi gerku cu xamgu" and "lo me mi gerku cu xamgu" ?
The first one is translated as
"lo any/some mi gerku dog(s) [of] I, me)2 cu is/does «3xamgu being good»3]1"
and the second one as
"lo any/some (3me amongst those that are mi I, me [type-of] gerku dog(s))3)2 cu is/does «4xamgu being good»4]1"

Yes, "lo mi gerku" meaning "my dog" is quite handy, but why it breaks the logic of anything learnt before ?
mi gerku means "I'm a dog" and when it is used as a sumti in the phrase
<lo mi gerku cu xamgu> 
it must mean <"I'm a dog" is good> whatever that means.

"me mi gerku" (my dog) has much more sense as it clear resembles "prenu gerku" (person's dog).

I feel that the "rule" of transforming "I am" into "mine" when adding "lo" is absolutely alien to other lojbanic rules.

On Thursday, August 4, 2011 6:10:49 PM UTC+4, Kevin Reid wrote:
On Aug 4, 2011, at 6:47, najrut wrote:

> But ... is it anyway possible to form tanru with pro-sumti included ?

It is possible as Jorge Llambías explained, with "me <sumti>" which is a conversion to the selbri "x1 is <sumti>".

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