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[lojban-beginners] Re: How to say "face down" or "facing"
This is above my level of lojban I think, but couldn't we try to make
more exact anatomical definitions of directions and positions
(especially of the human body)?
Such definitions would be very useful as parts of tanru/lujvo.
I'm really interested in the movements of human bodies, and I really
enjoy watching parkour, skateboarding, gymnastics, martial arts, yoga,
dancing etc etc.
Of course you could just borrow words from each discipline (fu'ivla)
when you need to describe a special type of movement/trick, but I also
think that lojban has the potential of creating a more universal
language of movements. At least such lujvos would be very useful to
describe common positions/movements like squatting, kneeling, lying
face down/up, but also perhaps to describe more complex movements like
different kind of cartwheels, volts, rotations, somersaults, ollie,
kong, lotus position, martial techniques etc etc etc.
The starting-point could be :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomical_terms_of_location#Directional_terms.
ok, you may think I'm too ambitious and that it's better to leave
everything vague than to be too normative, but if everything is left
vague you'll never be able to be precise when you want to. And I would
really appreciate if you with better skills than me could translate
the anatomical concepts in the wikipedia article (linked above) into
lojban.
/a'o. ki'ecai mi'e jongausib
On 23 Okt, 02:21, Michael Turniansky <mturnian...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, but of course you are to the side of something (for example, you are
> to the side of the bed from the reference frame of a fly on the wall who is
> facing an adjacent wall). In fact you are to the side of infinitely many
> things. But since you are not specifying the selmla or the velmla, we
> really don't care what they are. We are merely extracting the termla as a
> useful way of specifying your orientation. (But I didn't mean for you to
> lose the lo ckana in the x2 of vreta. That should still be there -- "mi
> vreta lo ckana fi'o termla vo'e", for example).
>
> --gejyspa
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Sebastian Fröjd <so.cool....@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > you mean termla? mi vreta fi'o termla lo ckana (that would be something
> > like "I lie facing the bed to the side of something"?)
>
> > 2011/10/18 Michael Turniansky <mturnian...@gmail.com>
>
> >> Fair point! termla, of course. Thanks for the correction.
>
> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeaber...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>> the hell do locks have to do with anything? zo'o
>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Michael Turniansky <
> >>> mturnian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> I would think you would want "...fi'o telmla lo ckana [/lo loldi]"
> >>>> But maybe that's just me.
> >>>> --gejyspa
>
> >>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Pierre Abbat <p...@phma.optus.nu>wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Tuesday 18 October 2011 05:42:18 Sebastian Fröjd wrote:
> >>>>> > I'm not proficient enough in lojban to help you with this one. I just
> >>>>> > notice that in swedish you almost never say that you're lying face up
> >>>>> or
> >>>>> > face down. Instead you say that you're "lying on [your] back" or
> >>>>> "lying on
> >>>>> > [your] belly". Perhaps that's easier to express in lojban.
>
> >>>>> That would be "mi vreta fi le trixe" or "mi vreta fi le crane", but x3
> >>>>> of "vreta" is not defined (x3 of "sanli" is, but not "zutse").
>
> >>>>> The directions "anterior" and "posterior" don't match the direction of
> >>>>> locomotion in humans the same way they do in most mammals. How is this
> >>>>> expressed in Lojban?
>
> >>>>> Pierre
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
> >>>>> Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.
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