Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Honorifics.

[tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com>]

2011/12/8 Felipe Gonçalves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com>:
> On 7 December 2011 12:45, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Dr." and other titles like "President" (are these honorifics?) can be
>> translated as a NOI clause:
>>
>>  Dr. Ron Paul and President Barack Obama
>>  la .ran.pal. noi mikce .e la .barak.obamam. noi gugja'a
>>
>> Or we could change the order, especially if we used cmevla as selbri:
>>
>>  Mr. Bean
>>  lo [.io] nanmu noi .bin.
>>
>>  Mrs. Doubtfire
>>  lo [.io] speni'u noi .dautfaiyr.
>>
>
> What about {no'u}/{po'u} with the current grammar?
>  {lo [.io] nanmu po'u la .bin.}

{no'u} is a short for {noi du}. The above examples don't have {du}, as
they are using the proposed generic place structure of cmevla: x1 is
called [cmevla]. But these can effectively mean the same:

  lo .io nanmu noi .bin.
  A mister [respect], who is called "Bean".
  Mr. Bean

  lo .io nanmu noi du la .bin. = lo .io nanmu no'u la .bin.
  A mister [respect], who is someone called "Bean"
  Mr. Bean

I'm not sure if {po'u} or {poi du} would work in this case. It might
work when addressing a body with multiple personalities:

  lo .io nanmu po'u la .supyman.
  Mr. Superman (not Clark Kent)

(We wouldn't have to do that for Dr. Jekyll / Mr. Hyde.)


mu'o

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