Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Let's do something like this for Lojban!

[Felipe Gonçalves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com>]

On 3 March 2012 19:23, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Felipe Gonçalves Assis
> <felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I suggest starting with
>>
>> 2. mi me la .clalis.
>> 3. ta me la .djan.
>> 4. zo .djan. cmene ta
>>
>> Why use SE right at the beginning?
>>
> Two reasons: 1) It's a translation of "My name is 'ceqli', which is {mi se
> cmene zo....|, not {mi me  la....|
> 2) In the original, the text in #2 and #4 are equivalent. Parallelism is a
> useful feature in learning.
>

1) I value writing a good introductory text more than translating the original
faithfully. I thought the idea was just to take advantage of the pictures...
2) I know parallelism is important. That is why I made 2 and 3 parallel.
It is true, though, that pictures 2 and 4 are parallel.

>
>>
>> Also, I recommend using the ti-series in place of the ko'a-series.
>> Using the latter while pointing can cause so much confusion...
>>
>> In 12 we may do
>>
>> 12. lo prenu cu zvati tu
>
>
> What? You do realize that in 12, ko'i (or lo prenu) and tu are referring to
> different things? In this case, I'm using tu in place of {lo vu diklo}.
>

I understand this. I made the remark precisely because {ko'i} should not be
replaced by {tu} in this sentence, but I still think that {ko'i}
should be avoided.

On the other hand, in frames 3, 4, 7 and 9, where there is pointing, the best
would be to use {ta} instead of {ko'a}/{ko'e}.

>>
>> Other suggestions:
>>
>> 17. doi .sam. ta mo / sedyta'u (no regard for the original)
>> 18. ti sedyta'u .i mi jgari lo sedyta'u lo xance .i mi xance jgari lo
>> sedyta'u
>
>
> Yeah, I'm sticking with the translation that does have regard for the
> original, but thanks.
>

Ok, but why?

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