Re: [lojban-beginners] Phrasing question: time intervals

[".arpis." <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>]

2012/3/14 Felipe Gonçalves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com>:
> On 14 March 2012 13:09, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2012/3/14 Felipe Gonçalves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com>:
>>> On 13 March 2012 23:09, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 18:52:33 .arpis. wrote:
>>>>> "I will be free between 9:30 and 10:30 and between 1:00 and 5:00"
>>>>> {mi zilfre ze'a lo temci be li so pi mu bei li dau pi mu be'o .e lo
>>>>> temci be li pa bei li mu be'o}
>>>
>>> My suggestion is
>>>  {mi zifre ti'u li so pi mu bi'o pano pi mu jo'u li pa bi'o mu}.
>>
>> Do you mean {mi zifre ti'u li so pi mu bi'o *li* pano pi mu jo'u li pa
>> bi'o *li* mu}?
>>
>
> I was purposely using the {bi'o} to connect operands, as in
> http://dag.github.com/cll/18/17/#e7
>
> You can also use {bi'o} to connect sumti, but, in your version,
> wouldn't we need a {bo} after the last {bi'o}?

Possibly. I tried your version in jbofi'e, and it choked, but camxes
seems to take it fine, and cll agrees with you, so I retract my
statement.

>
>
>>> ta'o
>>>> I assume that the first period is in the morning and the second is in the
>>>> afternoon. To make that clear, I'd say "li pano pi'e cino pe le cerni ... li
>>>> mu pi'e pe le vanci" or "li paci pi'e bi'o li paze pi'e". If you're an
>>>> astronomer, you probably want to reverse the assumption. "pe le cerni"
>>>> associates only with "li pano pi'e cino", so if the interval crosses noon, you
>>>> can tag the first time with "pe le cerni" and the second with "pe le vanci" (or
>>>> tag both with "pe le donri"). If you want to tag the whole time interval with
>>>> "pe le cerni", I'm not sure. jbofi'e balks at "ke".
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why not use 24h time?
>>> For 12h time a convention similar to "a.m/p.m" could be used, since, e.g.,
>>> {pa pi mu vy} is a valid expression. Isn't there such kind of convention?
>>
>> I don't think there's such a convention. I don't like using letterals
>> in numbers, mostly because I don't understand what it means, and I
>> don't think anyone have explained it clearly.
>>
>
> I would say it is just a notation. Of course, people have to agree on
> which notation they are using.
>
> By the way, I don't like {li pano pe le cerni} because I think it is too
> much to introduce two different number 10's for a.m/p.m. a.m/p.m
> looks more like part of the number to me.
>
> Another option would be to use {certcika}/{vactcika} instead of
> {tcika}, and {fi'o certcika}/{fi'o vactcika} instead of {ti'u}.
>
> Anyhow, 24h time is so easy compared to lojban...
>
> mu'o
> mi'e .asiz.
>
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