[lojban-beginners] Re: Phrasing question: time intervals

[ianek <janek37@gmail.com>]

"When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the unbounded duration."
I don't understand how one can specify the unbounded duration. Other
than {li ci'i}, I mean.

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 14 Mar, 20:48, ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Distanceseems to say that
> it won't work as a sumtcita.
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> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:26 PM, ianek <jane...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On 14 Mar, 17:09, ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 2012/3/14 Felipe Gonçalves Assis <felipeg.as...@gmail.com>:
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> >> > On 13 March 2012 23:09, Pierre Abbat <p...@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> >> >> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 18:52:33 .arpis. wrote:
> >> >>> "I will be free between 9:30 and 10:30 and between 1:00 and 5:00"
> >> >>> {mi zilfre ze'a lo temci be li so pi mu bei li dau pi mu be'o .e lo
> >> >>> temci be li pa bei li mu be'o}
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> >> >>> Is the use of {temci} correct here? {ze'a}?
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> >> > temci2 and temci3 are not numbers, but events.
> >> > You may use {lo se tcika be li...}.
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> >> jbovlaste seems to indicate that they can be times or events, but
> >> point taken that a number is neither.
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> >> >>> Is there a shorter way to say it?
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> >> > My suggestion is
> >> >  {mi zifre ti'u li so pi mu bi'o pano pi mu jo'u li pa bi'o mu}.
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> >> Do you mean {mi zifre ti'u li so pi mu bi'o *li* pano pi mu jo'u li pa
> >> bi'o *li* mu}?
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> >> > You may use {e} instead of {jo'u} if you prefer.
> >> > You could use a single mekso with the union-operator {jo'e}, but I recommend
> >> > limiting the complexity of mekso.
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> >> I'll stay away from mekso for now, thank you very much.
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> >> >> I'd say "mi zifre ca li so pi'e cino bi'obo li pano pi'e cino .e li pa pi'e
> >> >> bi'obo li mu pi'e". jbofi'e doesn't like that; it wants "lo'o" (the terminator
> >> >> for "li") before "bi'o". One of the "bo" is necessary but the other isn't.
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> >> > {ca} tags an event. A number is not an event. {ca lo se tcika be li...} should
> >> > be acceptable. Even so, I don't think {ca} implies that the freeness extends
> >> > along the whole interval, just that it intersects it.
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> >> True, but pragmatics would dictate that, even if I'm not available
> >> throughout the entire interval, any point you request within the
> >> interval is valid.
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> > Would {ze'e} work for this? Like {mi sipna ze'e lo prulamdei} –
> > "Yesterday I was sleeping all day"? It's just a guess, I'm rarely sure
> > what will come out of using a tense as a tag.
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> > mu'o mi'e ianek
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