On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, finally got a chance to read through this and I don't know if you've already discussed the following points, so if so, please ignore:1. You are using "ralte" where you probably more likely want "ponse"
No. I most certainly want "hold", not 'own".
"hold" is "jgari" "ralte" means to "hold on to/retain". And they are doing neither to their pets.
2. Why "mi srana lo xance" rather than "mi se xance"?
Because it a translation from the Ceqli.
"go ten taq. go ten dwe si taq. go ten daya sa taq ja kiri sa taq. go ten dwe si taq. han, dwe!"
"I have hand. I have two of hand. I have right-hand and left-hand. I have two of hand. Hand, two!"
This is obviously not have as in ralte or ponse, either.
But "I have a hand" is "mi se xance" "I have two hands" is "mi se xance lo remei" "mi se xance lo pritu", etc.
3. You are using "srana" in panels 62-65 (and maybe elsewhere) when you really want "ckini" if you mean "related to". "srana" means "pertaining to"
In Ceqli the word is "ten". "ten" means "have / possess". In Lojban, that means srana / ralte / ponse, as far as I'm concerned. I know that srana does not mean "related to" in the familial sense.
But are you trying to make a lojban primer, or trying to make a word-by-word literal translation of Ceqli, which never works out going between ANY pair of languages? The point being that "I have a son (etc)" is simply "mi se bersa"
4. You are using "verba" where you probably want "panzi" Where the latter is not incorrect, per se, it's the analog to tixnu and and bersa that you are using in those panels.
No. I most certainly want child "a young person", not "an offspring".
If you are saying "I have three children", if you are using "verba", it could just mean you've kidnapped some kids off the street and are keeping them in your basement. What the _meaning_ of the sentence you want to convey is "There are three things that are my offspring" -> "mi se panzi lo cimei (/ci da)"
--gejyspa
--On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, so that's all of them. There are some things I feel need a bit of editing, but I can easily do that myself. I doubt the final touches should take longer than an hour or thereabouts. I'll let you know when it's done and where I've put it so you can see the final product.
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Rex May <rmay@mac.com> wrote:
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mu'o mi'e .aionys.
.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
--On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Rex May <rmay@mac.com> wrote:
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mu'o mi'e .aionys.
.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Rex May <rmay@mac.com> wrote:
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mu'o mi'e .aionys.
.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rex May <rmay@mac.com>
Date: Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Lojban pics
To: Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
On Apr 19, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Rex May wrote:<lcpic0010.jpg><lcpic0010.jpg><lcpic0010.jpg><lcpic0011.jpg><lcpic0011.jpg><lcpic0012.jpg><lcpic0012.jpg><lcpic0013.jpg><lcpic0013.jpg><lcpic0014.jpg><lcpic0014.jpg><lcpic0015.jpg><lcpic0015.jpg><lcpic0016.jpg><lcpic0017.jpg><lcpic0018.jpg><lcpic0019.jpg><lcpic0020.jpg>I don't know why there's more than one copy of some of these. But here they are
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mu'o mi'e .aionys.
.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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mu'o mi'e .aionys.
.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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mu'o mi'e .aionys.
.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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mu'o mi'e .aionys.
.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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