Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: What can you do with Lojban that you can't do with English?

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:17 PM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Are there many other simple Lojban constructs which meanings are
> unspecified? I'd say that tanru logical connectives are pretty base
> thing,

The main problem with tanru logical connnectives is what can it mean
to connect two predicates with different place structures. The usual
assumption is that the x1 of "broda je brode" has to be something that
satisfies both the x1 of broda and the x1 of brode. But what about the
x2? Does it have to satisfy both the x2 of broda and the x2 of brode?
If so, does something like "ko'a ko'e sutra je bajra" make any sense
at all?

>unlike some obscure mekso issues, or "what if a sentence has
> multiple prenexes".

I'm not aware of any issues with multiple prenexes, it's just the same
as one single longer prenex.

> Also, I don't really understand how jo'u works in general, in CLL I've
> seen only one example. Does {mi jo'u do bevri lo pipno} mean that each
> of us carries a piano individually, but we both carry the same piano?

I take "jo'u" as the connective corresponding to "lo", just like "joi"
corresponds to "loi" and "ce" corresponds to "lo'i". So "mi jo'u do
bevri lo pipno" is like "lo re prenu cu bevri lo pipno".

> The less I understand jo'u as a tanru connective...

Tanru connectives are indeed weird.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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