Re: [lojban-beginners] my first translation

[".arpis." <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>]

I don't quite like {mi'e la borg} because it doesn't convey the
plurality, which I feel is important in this case; can we say {mi'e
lai borg}?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> For the first sentence, The Borg are identifying themselves by name. This
>> means that the gismu {cmene} is needed: "x1 is the name of x2...". Since the
>> name is first, in order to keep the order of the English intact we have to
>> flip {cmene} using {se}, i.e. {se cmene} or {selcme}. The x1 of {cmene} (or
>> the x2 of {selcme}) is a name, and so is a quoted word, which means we use
>> {zo}, at least for single word names. Finally, The Borg are announcing that
>> /they/ are the Borg, the x2 of {cmene}. We can use either {mi} or {mi'a},
>> the difference being that {mi'a} explicitly excludes the addressee(s),
>> whereas {mi} does not. So, we have:
>>
>> {mi'a selcme zo.borg.}
>>
>> For "We are the Borg".
>>
>
>   You actually don't need to do that.  "mi'e [la] borg."   works perfectly
> fine.  Mi'e not only serves not only to indicate the speaker, but to label
> them.
>      --gejyspa
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