Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: my first translation

[".arpis." <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>]

That seems to be exemplifying the difference between individual and collective.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> On Friday 10 August 2012 16:20:18 ianek wrote:
>> {lai}, {loi}, {lei} are not plural. A mass can be equally well
>> composed of one component. That said, I don't quite get what masses
>> are in Lojban, eg. why {lo matne} can't be a mass:
>> http://dag.github.com/cll/6/3/ Whether or not a mass is correct in the
>> context of Borg, plurality is not implied.
>
> If there is one stick of butter somewhere, it is equally correct to call
> it "lo matne" and "loi matne". If there are two or more sticks of butter,
> there is a semantic difference between "lo matne" and "loi matne", which is a
> bit hard to explain without some predicate. Butters don't carry pianos, or
> take any action, and they are subdivisible.
>
> Here's my example of "lo/loi" being the opposite of singular/plural:
> lo mi kerfa cu jdari .iku'i loi mi kerfa cu ranti
> My hairs are hard, but my hair is soft.
>
> Pierre
> --
> li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
> li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci
>
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