Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Where should I use sets and where should I use masses?

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 4:39 PM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5 Wrz, 00:24, Jorge Llambías <jjllamb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:52 AM, ianek <jane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > It's a property of being a cliquehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clique_(graph_theory).
>>
>> If you restrict "simxu" to the cliques of graph theory, you can't use
>> it for something like:
>>
>> lo zajba pu simxu lo ka ce'u ce'u sanli kei gi'e se morna lo remna pramide
>> "The gymnasts stood on one another's shoulders and formed a human pyramid."
>
> So what {simxu} really means? That the graph is connected?

Maybe even that is not completely necessary. Probably something like
most/almost all nodes must be connected to other nodes and the
connections have to be dense enough.

>Arguments
> based on something that sounds good in a natural language are
> suspicious for me. The definitions of Lojban words are (in most cases)
> in a natural language, but it doesn't mean that they should be
> ambiguous.

Vague is not the same as ambiguous. You can always define a more
precise word ("rolrelsi'u"? "simymu'o"? something else?) for the more
specific meaning. If you make "simxu" require full pairwise
distributivity, you make it practically unusable for most ordinary
contexts.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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