Re: [lojban-beginners] No word for "round/circular"

[la arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>]

On Saturday, June 22, 2013 3:10:27 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> On Friday, June 21, 2013 23:38:31 la arxokuna wrote:
> > "<round> in the first meaning" acc. to Wiktionary
> > "Circular or cylindrical; having a circular cross-section in one direction."
> > 
> > Do we have a word for this? cukla and bolci are too specific.
>
> I suggest "cukpa'otai" or "xiltai", the second after thinking of the etymology 
> of "round", which is "rotundus" from "rota".

Oh I just found this in the notes to {tarmi}.

x1 [ideal] is the conceptual shape/form of object/abstraction/manifestation x2 (object/abstract).

Also pattern; x1 is the mathematical or theoretical ideal form, while x2 is an object/event manifesting that form; e.g. circular/circle-shaped (= cukseltai) vs. circle (=cuktai, while cukla alone is ambiguous); model (= ci'ersaptai, saptai, ci'ersmitai, smitai). See alse nejni, te marji for physical shape, tapla, bliku, kubli, kurfa, cukla, mapti, morna, sarlu.

Why don't we have cukseltai and cuktai in jvs? What would it be their place structure?

> Do you have any suggestion for "round" in the sense of "round number" (which 
> has two subsenses)? There's nothing circular or wheel-like about the numbers 
> 1700 and 2147483648.
>
> Pierre
> -- 
> loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji

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